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Boy Scouts of America to begin accepting transgender boys

Members of the Boy Scouts wait to march in the Veterans Day parade on Fifth Avenue in New York on Nov. 11, 2014. Photo courtesy of Reuters/Lucas Jackson

(Reuters) The Boy Scouts of America said the group would begin accepting transgender boys, bucking its more-than-century-old practice of using the gender stated on a birth certificate to determine eligibility.

“Starting today, we will accept and register youth in the Cub and Boy Scout programs based on the gender identity indicated on the application,” Boy Scouts of America communications director Effie Delimarkos said in an emailed statement.

Delimarkos cited shifting definitions of gender under state laws, which can “vary widely from state to state,” in explaining the change.

She said that while the organization offers programs for all youths, its Cub and Boy Scout programs are specifically for boys. The change will allow children to apply even if male is not listed on their birth certificate.

Advocacy group Scouts for Equality applauded the move: “This is another historic day for the Boy Scouts of America. The decision to allow transgender boys to participate in the Cub Scouts and the Boy Scouts is an important step forward for this American institution.”

Boy Scout Casey Chambers carries a rainbow flag during the San Francisco Gay Pride Festival in California on June 29, 2014. Photo courtesy of Reuters/Noah Berger

Boy Scout Casey Chambers carries a rainbow flag during the San Francisco Gay Pride Festival in California on June 29, 2014. Photo courtesy of Reuters/Noah Berger

In 2013, the Boy Scouts voted to lift a ban on openly gay scouts that had been in place throughout the organization’s history after gay rights advocates gathered petitions with more than 1.8 million signatures in support of ending the ban.

Support also came from some of the biggest American churches, including the Mormons and the Methodists, two of the largest scouting sponsors in the United States.

Two years later, the organization lifted its blanket ban on gay adult leaders after its president, former U.S. Defense Secretary Robert Gates, called the ban “unsustainable” in the face of numerous lawsuits challenging the policy on grounds of discrimination.

The Boy Scouts of America, whose stated mission is to prepare youth for life and leadership, has nearly 2.3 million members between the ages of 7 and 21 and roughly 960,000 volunteers in local councils throughout the country, according to its website.

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  • By definition of mission statement, the BSA can only become “GBT” inclusive as being inclusive of all youth who self-identify as “boys.” So, cool, thank God for now becoming fully inclusive.

  • The BSA continue to show they are committed to being a part of raising our young to be productive members of and leaders in our society. Well done!

  • Don’t your kids already belong to “Young Aryan Commandos for Jesus,” or whatever they call the anti-LGBT Boy-Scout knock-off group these days? Why practice building campfires when you can practice burning crosses instead?

  • As a former Eagle Scout and I look forward to the day the Bible thumping bigots finally remove themselves from the BSA. A generation of damage to the reputation and integrity of the organization. Good riddance.

  • It’s a mess for sure, but it probably won’t “end the scouts” as long as the Mormons and Methodists continue their support.

    Christian parents, times have changed. For the worse. Much worse.
    So please seek an alternative to the BSA if you can find one at all, such as church-based youth groups and activities.

  • My local Lions Club has sponsored the new community BSA troop for kids who want the Scouting experience without all the Hallelujah nonsense you get in church-sponsored troops.

  • No way would I ever allow my sons or daughters to do scouts. Did you see this?
    “Trans men can now become Girl Guide leaders
    Men can join the Girl Guides as leaders for the first time in its 107 year history – if they feel they have been born in the ‘wrong’ body.
    New regulations say it would be unlawful to tell parents if their daughter is being looked after by a man identifying as a woman on overnight excursions.”The Christian Institute

    Now I know you don’t have a problem with this but millions of other sane adults. We can pray and work for the demise of the scouts. They are no longer fit to work with our children.

  • Did you see this?
    “Trans men can now become Girl Guide leaders
    Men can join the Girl Guides as leaders for the first time in its 107 year history – if they feel they have been born in the ‘wrong’ body.
    New regulations say it would be unlawful to tell parents if their daughter is being looked after by a man identifying as a woman on overnight excursions.”The Christian Institute

    Now I know you don’t have a problem with this but millions of other sane adults. We can pray and work for the demise of the scouts. They are no longer fit to work with our children.

  • You have that backward. BSA does not need your sort of social pollution in their ranks. You can’t teach young men to be honorable toward women by treating them the way President Trump does, even if that just makes Trump “all-male” to your thinking.

  • So you have no problem with a fake woman leading the scouts into the woods?
    What will bsa teach boys about fake women? How will they teach them that its ok for a man who thinks he is a woman to use the girls bathrooms and locker rooms? In fact if a boy wants to pretend he is a girl there nothing wrong with that either. Right?

  • Gay psychiatrist, Dr. Jack Drescher, informs us that only “6 to 23 percent of boys and 12 to 27 percent of girls treated in gender clinics showed persistence of their gender dysphoria into adulthood”. Therefore, most of these children (at least 77 percent of boys and 73 percent of girls) will give up this notion that they are trapped in a body of the wrong sex. It would be less confusing and thus better for them and for the other children around them if transgenderism was discouraged. The Boy Scouts are doing a disservice to the gender dysphoric children and to the other Boy Scouts.

    https://www.pdf-archive.com/2015/09/10/drescher-et-al-2014-hastings-center-report/preview/page/6/#dl

  • You have your own Kids Kamping for Khrist group, right?

    I would rather not have bigots in the BSA. I would feel bad for your kids for missing out on scouting. But that is how these things go.

    Scouting is a non sectarian organization. Obviously such concepts don’t mesh with your brand of religious based obnoxiousness. Not anymore.

  • You have far more to worry about than bigots. You want to allow a fake woman to get close to boys. This is what you should fear.

  • For the last generation. I have had to listen to the bigoted dishonest bullshit that bible thumpers have been spewing to attack gay scouts and gay scout leaders.

    As it turned out as they were going after the gays, sexual abuse was going on unreported. Evidently bigotry makes people lazy as well.

    Well that is done. You guys have already damaged the reputation of the BSA. Now sanity is returning.

    Now go brainwash your kids at Jesus camp.

  • Help me out. If being against a man using the girls bathrooms and locker rooms and being close to children makes me a bigot then so be it. It is only perverts who don’t have a problem with this. I know what side you are on.

  • Why would YOU say “Young Aryan…..”!??
    YOU do know that other Races and nationalities believe in God/Jesus/Allah and etc….and they’re against having Trans/Gay and etc. people being mixed in with BSA also. Not just a few White people!
    I found that very assuming of YOU and Racist.
    Not only that, YOU have No idea what race that poster is either.

    Not everyone commenting online is White either…..many of us commenting online are also Hispanic/Latino, Asian, Indian, mixed races and etc……and Many of us Say and Think things, on and offline, that YOU only think White people say and think!

  • I have a problem with fake Christians passing their fake judgments on others. The word “bigot” was coined specifically to deal with self-appointed judges for Jesus almost a thousand years ago. Not much has changed among the self-righteous since then.

  • Being white, I felt okay in throwing white bigots under the bus. I’ve leave bigots of color to someone else to toss under the bus, thank you. You will notice my remarks leave the door open for a more inclusive “Pick-your-own-name” option for whatever group of young bigots you folks are trying to substitute for the Boy Scouts.

  • Just because someone online says they are Christian, doesn’t necessarily mean that is true either.

  • I am not worried about Transgender adults around kids, but I do worry about subjecting kids to religious bigots. That can’t be good for them.

  • No point in correcting your nonsense anymore. It’s a waste of time. You not interested in information about trans or LGBT people in general. You want to pretend they are all sexual predators. Such bigotry won’t go away in a discussion.

  • Actually, Massachusetts has a very sensible solution to the whole bathroom issue: common hand-washing areas away from stalls and having each stall be its own either-gender little room with a door and a toilet behind the door. Very practical and no need to worry about genders. But that doesn’t solve the hallelujah homophobe problem.

  • If you think that “fake woman” is really a man, why would you have a problem with him being in the Boy Scouts?

  • Your whole remark is merely an indictment against you and no one else. The only thing “wicked” here is your own self-blinding bigotry. If it only harmed you, that would be okay, but it harms everyone by just being exposed to it.

  • As opposed to the disservice you are advocating towards actual transgender children.

    Exactly the same logic was used to criminalize, pathologies, and sinnerize gay people for the past 2000 years. After all, they are a minority.

    No, thank you.

  • A fake woman getting close to boys? As I have told you many, many times, you’re obsessions to not comport with reality.

    For decades, the Boy Scouts gay people from scouting, either a scouts or as leaders. For decades, they had only certifiable heterosexual man as leaders. For decades, they had a severe molestation problem, as these heterosexual men molested boy after boy. For decades, the Boy Scouts attempted to cover up the problem in the style of the Roman Catholic Church, preferring to blame innocent gay people for the depredations of heterosexual man.

    But as long as you can scream “get the gays”, you’re happy.

    I really wonder what fuels your obsession. Well, I know.

  • True. Many demonstrate that they lack anything other than an obsession with other people sex lives and other peoples sex. However, you can probably tell who is a real Christian by how much they attack other Christians for not being the right type of Christian.

  • Its not bigotry to be against evil and perversion especially when its against children. There is great harm in this though the homofacist like yourself think this is a good thing.

  • The only thing here against children is your fake effort to create controversy where there is none. You take it for granted that LGBT adults obsess about sex and sexuality as much or more than you do. But it is you who over-obsesses about those issues to the point of posing a threat to the innocence of children by exposure to the details of your unreasoning hatred of others.

  • Congratulations to the Boy Scouts on their brave, bold and decent move. This is a very good thing for All Boys. Bravo!

  • Anyone who wants rights based on their sexual preferences are people who are obsessed with sex. What’s sick is exposing children to this. This is what the homofacists want.

  • There you go conflating the issue of orientation with sexual behavior so as to shake your judgmental finger at others based on your own vulgar obsession with such things. You then make false suppositions about motives and intentions. The simple truth of the matter is that about 29% of LGBT adults are also parents to one or more kids. Studies clearly show the involved LGBT parents provide high quality care for their children. The number one reason that LGBT adults who married straight stay in failing marriages is to provide a stable home life for the children of that marriage. Almost all “Pray-it-away” marriages between an LGBT adult and a straight partner fail as soon as the last child leaves home. The stats on the matter clearly show that you are clueless on the issue.

  • “Study: Kids Raised By Same-Sex Couples Much More Likely to Suffer Depression as Adults
    Are the kids all right? Ask them when they’re adults.”
    …Sullins has previously analysed data for the younger children of same-sex parents, finding that they suffer twice as many emotional problems as do children with opposite-sex parents, and four times the emotional problems of children raised by their own joint biological parents. In another study he found that ADHD is also twice as common among these children.
    The new study, “Invisible Victims: Delayed Onset Depression Among Adults with Same-Sex Parents,” published in the journal Depression Research and Treatment, is the first study to follow a cohort of such children into adulthood. It shows that, as teenagers, and despite being no more depressed than their peers, these young adults reported much higher rates of anxiety and suicidal thoughts.”

  • This is pretty stupid. The transfolk joining the Boy Scouts are
    FTMs (Female to Male) not MTF (Male to Female). Gender is a social construct.

  • Donald Paul Sullins did not conduct his own scientific study; instead he cherry-picked data from a study done for other purposes and then did his own “analysis” of the data he mined from that study, ignoring his own findings that kids in families with two same-sex parents faired far better than kids in single-parent homes. Like all other hatchet jobs paid for by the notorious Family Research Council, Sullins work cannot be classified as actual research, so much as critical analysis and politically motivated commentary on the research of others done for other purposes than the stated objectives of his efforts. In other words, it’s all bunk. And unlike your uncredited cut-and-paste quotes, here’s my source for debunking Sullens: https://thinkprogress.org/conservatives-seize-on-hugely-flawed-study-about-same-sex-parents-bd797734bf40#.did4e2vpr

  • Actually it’s every reputable therapist, who reject the ridiculous notion transfolk are fake: American Psychiatric Association, American Psychological association, National Association of social Workers, etc.

  • Cannot change your gender. The gender a person has at birth that is known by the doctor and parents does not change throughout life. That is a medical fact.
    Consider: “According to McHugh, the “sense of being transgendered constitutes a mental disorder in two respects.” The first, he says, is that “it does not correspond with physical reality.” The second, more importantly, is that not treating transgender disorder properly “can lead to grim psychological outcomes. In his op-ed, McHugh cited a 2011 study that followed “324 sex-reassigned persons” from 1973 to 2003 in Sweden. According to the study’s abstract, it found that “persons with transsexualism, after sex reassignment, have considerably higher risks for mortality, suicidal behaviour, and psychiatric morbidity than the general population.”https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/former-johns-hopkins-head-psychiatrist-transgender-surgery-isnt-the-solutio

    “’Sex change’ is biologically impossible,” said McHugh. “People who undergo sex-reassignment surgery do not change from men to women or vice versa. Rather, they become feminized men or masculinized women.”
    http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/michael-w-chapman/johns-hopkins-psychiatrist-transgender-mental-disorder-sex-change

  • Consider: “According to McHugh, the “sense of being transgendered constitutes a mental disorder in two respects.” The first, he says, is that “it does not correspond with physical reality.” The second, more importantly, is that not treating transgender disorder properly “can lead to grim psychological outcomes. In his op-ed, McHugh cited a 2011 study that followed “324 sex-reassigned persons” from 1973 to 2003 in Sweden. According to the study’s abstract, it found that “persons with transsexualism, after sex reassignment, have considerably higher risks for mortality, suicidal behaviour, and psychiatric morbidity than the general population.”https://www.lifesitenews.com/n…

    “’Sex change’ is biologically impossible,” said McHugh. “People who undergo sex-reassignment surgery do not change from men to women or vice versa. Rather, they become feminized men or masculinized women.”
    http://www.cnsnews.com/news/ar

  • Again, all of your “source” materials are basically cherry-picked rubbish, manufactured “alternative facts” paid for by the Family Research Council as hatchet work on LGBTs. The FRC “researcher” simply played cut-and-paste on real studies and then wrote their own unscientific conclusions, all wordsmithed to help the garden grow.

  • You haven’t figured this out yet? Google trans men images. It isn’t difficult.

    No. Trans men look like men. They look like the gender they are. You have probably met trans people without knowing it.

  • Wow. Nice cherry picking by you and the bigoted author.

    “…after sex reassignment, have considerably higher risks for mortality, suicidal behaviour, and psychiatric morbidity than the general population.”

    The comparison should be with reassignment to without reassignment. Sex reassignment surgery causes a dramatic reduction in suicide rates. Without treatment, the suicide rate approaches 50%.

    This study was examining the need for continued follow up care after surgery.

    As noted by one commrntator:
    “However trans people as a group also experience significant social oppression in the form of bullying, abuse, rape and hate crimes. Medical transition alone won’t resolve the effects of crushing social oppression: social anxiety, depression and posttraumatic stress.”

    It is still bigotry that leads to suicide, not medical treatment.

  • That study was debunked sux ways to Sunday. They compared kids in families with no divorce to kids with one gay parent who was divorced from the other parent.

    They excluded kids with straight parents who were divorced and kids raised by two gay parents from birth.

    The “study” is a joke and is worthless.

    Edit – should be SIX ways to Sunday. 🙂

  • Nope. Because they don’t exist. Much like I don’t have a problem with unicorns or well considered responses from you. I have seen neither, nor are ever likely to.

  • The local American Legion has sponsored a BSA troop in my hometown for nearly 40 years. It was deliberately set up for parents who did not want religious sponsorship. They have turned out one of the highest number of eagle scouts for a scout troop.

    It is also interesting to note the local council was in outright defiance of the gay scout and gay leader ban from the outset. There were no repercussions from the national level.

  • So now you hate the Boy Scouts. Charming, as usual.

    You know, the world would be a lot better if we just got rid of homohatred.

  • Goshes Sandi. One more time you demonstrate your invincible ignorance, your lack of compassion, and your obsession with homosexuality, all the while forgetting something about logs and motes.

    There must be a word to describe this. HMmmmmm.

    I know!

    Sandimonious!

    I win the internet today!

  • You want rights based upon your sexual preference. The difference is, they are your rights and not the rights of everyone.

  • Goshes again.

    “The sense of being a fundamentalist Christian constitutes a mental disorder in two respects.” The first is that “it does not correspond with physical reality.” The second, More importantly, is that not treating the fundamentalist disorder properly “can lead to grim psychological outcomes.”

    People become sex obsessed bigots who constantly obsess about the sex lives of other people, make up crap in their minds to justify the ill treatment of people they know nothing about, and then congratulate themselves for attacking children, families, and other Christians.

    The technical name is HDS:

    Homo derangement syndrome.

  • Ahhh, but that would mean that I care about what you have to say, and after a wile, it’s just the same old stuff – hatred, hatred for God, hatred for those trying to help homosexuals…

  • There you go again, being sandimonious.
    I do care about what you have to say, seeing how lies, sex obsession, ignorance, and lack of compassion fill you, as you merrily use your religion as an excuse ot harm people under the guise of loving them.
    Sandimonious it is!

  • Right up to snuff for your hatred of everything Christian, Ben.I do give you points for sandimonious though. Maybe we could write a love song about it and how homoexuals could become saved, and follow Jesus, with it.

  • Again, reviling and slandering me. That’s a lie. I don’t hate everything christian. I don’t even hate you.

    I just despise people who use their religion as a weapon. It’s so sandimonious.

  • Ben, seriously, I know you’ve been hurt, but if you only knew how you sounded. I don’t hate you either, but this is something you need to work past. Seriously, You have been on my heart the last few day, and I’ve been praying for you. Only God knows why, or maybe you do.

  • I doubt that. and even if they did, correlation is not the same as cause and effect. I would certainly rather have LGBT parents than fundamentalist ones and so would most people.

  • so in other words your boy McHugh is a gender reassignment denialist just like climate change denialists, proving once again that reality has a liberal bias.

  • Sandimonious, Dear, you know nothing about me. You certainly don’t know that I’ve been hurt, any more than you know anything about my “hatred” imaginary hatred of all things Christian, anything about homosexuality, anything about the relationship of god with any other person on the planet.

    Please don’t pray for me. You do not have the spiritual cachet to pray for me, only the arrogance to think that you need to, that you can, or that god would prefer to listen to your prayer rather than the prayers of starving children.

    Pray for yourself, sinner girl. It will be of much great value to you.

  • Luke 6:45 – …For the mouth speaks what the heart is full of.
    I’ll continue to try to help you, sad Ben (edited)

  • Rest assured your personal animus toward all people not on the extreme ends of the sexuality spectrum is well known here Sandy. The same is true of your attempts to buttress that with inaccurate proof texting. But thank you for sharing.

  • You want me to prove you have a personal animus against LBTG folks!?! Seriously? LBTG is your very own dog whistle! You come unglued at that!

  • “Aberration?” Interesting choice, but okay. Aberrations have led to life-saving medical discoveries, life changing scientific changes, etc. Aberrations have changed the history of humankind for the better.

  • This would usher end the official end of the Boy Scouts. If you have a penis you are a boy if you have vagina you are a girl, God does not make mistakes.

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